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Be a Torchbearer for God - P2/3 November 25, 1999 Johannesburg, S. Africa (In Sepedi)    
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I am willing to serve you in any way I can if you think you are ready to make this choice again, you've had enough with this life, you want to have a different choice. But nevertheless, we do not forsake this world in order to go to Heaven, no. We still can have both. For example, I am still here. I just enjoy Heaven every day, but I enjoy also this life. You see, I enjoy your jewelry and your clothes very much.
 
 
Sometimes people who are spiritual, if they choose to be successful also in this life, they can also be successful. Different masters have chosen different ways to demonstrate the love of God. Some masters have chosen the way of complete renunciation - like Jesus, like Buddha - but some masters have chosen to make use of the gifts of God, or God has ordained them to do this.
 
 
It depends on God's will whether you should be very rich materially as well as spiritually in this life, or you just be rich materially and not spiritually, or just spiritually and not materially. Everyone has to walk a different path, but we're all walking Home, toward God's dimension. And this is what we are here for. In case you ask me what's the purpose of human being, that's what it is. And thank you very much for your attention. If you have any more questions, I will be pleased to answer. Then I can show you how to remember God.


I hope I made myself clear? Yes, you are so intelligent. My God! I am not surprised, I am not surprised. African people are very, very spiritual. They are very much more in contact with nature... very spiritual.



*Dear Master, what is the benefit of following a Master? Is it not perhaps a better prospect to be self-determined and to follow one's own path to enlightenment and to sort out one's own karma (retribution)?


Actually, in a way of speaking, you call me “Master,” but I told you already, I am going to remind you that you are the master. And that's all there is. And the karma (retribution) and all that will go away as soon as you realize that you are the master of the universe, that you are one with God. But before that, if you have not completely realized this, of course, I'll be your friend and help you until you understand everything.
 
 
And you can call me “Master” or you follow me. You don't have to follow me because I am not here in Africa forever. Just follow the instruction so that every day you can contemplate deeply inside and then find God, and then one day you will completely understand. You might even completely understand today, it depends on how intense of your choice to go back to God. So you don't have to follow anybody, not even any physical or celestial being. You follow yourself. I am just showing you how, showing you some instructions so that you… because it's not that you don't know - you have forgotten!
 
 
 Because we live in this world, we're so much busy with survival and everything tries to bury us under these worries and suffering and then make us so busy and perplexed that we have forgotten. So I have already gotten out of the mud; I can pull a rope and get you out and then bathe you again. Then you'll become just like me again - all clean, beautiful.


 

*Can the Convenient Method of meditation offer you as much as initiation?



Differently, a little differently. The Convenient Method is for convenience, yes. Some people, for example, they cannot be vegetarian completely or they have not decided whether they should go part-time or full-time. They just want to try a short period of time every day. So, of course, the benefit is not as great as when you go full-time. But the Convenient Method will offer your own liberation in this lifetime. Whereas, if you practice Quan Yin Method and get the full initiation, you could even help many other people, including your five, six, seven, nine generations, to be liberated. Yes, the more money you earn, the richer you become.
 


*How can you explain Adam and Eve?

Should I explain about them? Look at yourself and you know. Look at ourselves. Yes.



*After initiation, how do we communicate with you if you are not here?


I am always “here.” I am always “here.” You will see that. Sometimes you will see me in your house if you concentrate enough. Besides, you can write to me, can e-mail, write a letter. Nowadays, very convenient. But the best communication is inside, because we will be reconnected again with the whole universe, so whatever problem you have, the whole universe knows and, of course, I know, because I am also connected in the network.
 
 
So whenever you ask something, you have the answer right away. But in case you're still not sure in the beginning, you can always write to me. But the answer is always inside.  There is a connection, a 24-hour telephone service - no charge. Yes, that's a wonder of being enlightened. Because if a teacher has to be physically present every time with the disciples, then it is not convenient, it's not powerful enough.
 
 
Because it doesn't matter how powerful or how strong a teacher is, he or she cannot protect the disciple 24 hours by physical presence, but by the power of the universe to which the master, she or he, is connected already. I am not, myself, it's not the physical body now, that will be protecting you. It is the connection with the universal power through me that will protect you.
 
 
That's why everywhere you are, that power knows and protects you and answers your questions. You will know "Knock and it shall be opened. Ask and it shall be given." Your prayers will always be answered, your questions will always be replied by inner connection. And that's the wonder of being in this enlightening way of life. Otherwise, what's the use of having to even find the master through rivers and ocean again? And how long can you stay with her or him?



Even the master, after initiation, will continue to protect and guide you after the master has departed from this world. That is the meaning of being a master. Otherwise, you should not be a master. It's a lot of work.


 

*Will we master the art of clairvoyance with the third eye?


That's nothing! That's just a little child's play. You don't aim for that. This is not the goal for you. Of course, you will see things - you'll see everything - but you see the whole universe, not just a little thing here and there, not just your future and your past. You will master the whole life force, you will master the whole universe. That is the goal.



*I want to understand the Bibles.


Is that it? (Yes.) Well, then study it! Read it. Yes, yes, I know. It is difficult to understand because a lot of stories and terminologies in there are kind of mystical. Unless we have the same level of consciousness, we find it very difficult to understand. So just get enlightened. Stay around and I' show you how to enter into the true experience of the Bibles. Because the Bibles, many are recorded, of the experience, enlightened experience, of the past practitioners, spiritual practitioners.


It's like, for example Jesus, when he meditated 40 days in the desert, of course he communicated with God. And the devil also came to him and tempted him with the power of the Three Worlds. You understand what the Three Worlds is? It's very big! This world is already big enough. If somebody comes and offers you to be the king of this whole world, would you like it? Of course, you would already.


And he is offered to be the king of the Three Worlds, to be above this world, another two worlds. But that's as far as the devil can reign, so he can only offer Three Worlds. And he said, "Get out of my sight." That's what Jesus said, meaning, “get lost.”


This kind of experience... I am sorry, we couldn't even see the devil even if we wanted to, because we are not able to see with the spirit yet. So in order to understand what Jesus has experienced, even to say to the devil "get lost," we have to study what Jesus has taught us. Walk his way. Meditate like him. "Go in the closet" - means meditate, means pray in silence, pray properly. "Let your eye be single so that your whole body will be full of Light
 
 
." I will show you how to make your eye single, how to find that single eye here so that you can see Heaven, you can see the true life, which is cheated from us because of all this physical appearance.  We are cheated. We did not see the true life, but we can if we use the true eye. And that's why I came here. I will show you later.



*Master, is it important to be a vegetarian to be enlightened?


It is important, it is important. Because, first of all, we have to practice love in order to beget love. In order to be all-pervasive, loving, like our Father, we have to love all beings. And that is the meaning behind the vegetarian diet. It's not to be healthy, or not because Jesus said so or Buddha forbids - it's just we have to be love reincarnate. We have to be the walking God on this planet.
 
We have to live like God would live. So, in order to be near God... God doesn't punish us. It's just like begets like: if we want to be near to something, we have to go there, the same direction. So, God created all beings and let them die naturally. So should we. If we couldn't create, at least we do not destroy. The commandment in the Bible is: "Thou shall not kill." It didn't say: "You shall not kill humans only." It says, "Thou shall not kill." Anything killed is killed.
 


*What is your opinion on spiritual healers? Should or can it be done for a living, like charging clients? If it is, is it allowed?


Yes, spiritual healing is very good, very good for the patients. Not too good for the healer sometimes, because she or he has to take on the bad karma (retribution) of these patients, and sometimes it's very overwhelming. Because spiritual healing is just one of the levels of God consciousness. If we arrive there, we can heal people. Yes, these people are very spiritually strong in order to heal people.
 
Spiritual healers are very strong in their spirit, but in order to heal without healing, like Jesus did, we can go a little higher, much higher. Then we heal. You don't have to lay hands on people. Just like when somebody touched Jesus' garment, and she was just healed, and she thanked him. He said, "No, it's your faith that heals you." He never claimed because he knew it was the Father, and he said, "It's not me who does it, it's my Father." And that is the highest level of spiritual healing.
 
We could be in many different levels, so it depends on where you are. The greatest spiritual healers don't heal. They just get healed. If it is God's will for that person to be healed through you, he just gets healed. The master, or for example Jesus, he didn't do anything. That's why he never claimed credit. Yes, a true master is like that - very humble.


 
 

*How do you teach your children this way of life without being ridiculed in everyday life?


Yes, I told you, people will ridicule you even if you have a beautiful boyfriend or wife. So why are you scared? This life has been led in a wrong direction for a long time. That's why we are what we are now. So if we could not change the whole world, at least we change ourselves, we change our environment, change whomever we can influence. If our children want to go this way, it's our duty to lead them, no matter whoever says.
 
You have to walk the way of Jesus. People stoned him, cursed him, labeled him, crucified him - did he give up his way? No! So we are Christian, we are whomever, we walk the way of God. All right? And we have to be an example to other beings. We cannot follow them because they are erring already, they are mistaken. You must be the torchbearer. You must change. And somebody else might change, also. They might not accept at first, but they come home and think about it: "Oh, this way seems to be better."
 
 And then later they say, “It is definitely better. Okay, I follow." See? That's why we still follow Jesus now, 2,000 years later, because that's the only way to live our life. We follow, but we don't practice. We should practice more.



*Is God within us? Is it the subconscious mind? If not, what is it exactly?

Yes, God is within us. It's the consciousness. God's also without us. God is everywhere. God is yourself.
 


*I want to feel the power of God, but I don't know how. Can you help me? I want to be strong and faithful.


Yes. Only when you see God, then you can be strong and faithful. You cannot believe something you don't see, I am sorry. I'll show you how to see God, then you can believe Hirm, all right? God is Light. God is the love you will feel during the contact with Hirm, during your meditation, during the time that you reserve for Hirm. And then later, more and more every day, every minute, you will feel Hiers love. Even without meditation, even when you're walking or when you're driving, you will feel that you are one with that love. That's a wonderful feeling, and that's how we can believe. You see? That's how we can believe.
 


*How do you see that God is with you? And when do you feel that the Holy Spirit is with you?

I feel that all the time. How do I know?
 


*How do you see?

What I see, I cannot tell you, but I can show you so you can see the same. Because what I drink, you don't know. What I drink, you cannot taste. What I eat, you cannot feel full. But I can offer you the same meal, same juice. Then you can understand.

I wish God is a physical flower I can show you. But God's also in the flowers. God is in here. You can see this is the physical manifestation of God's beauty. This is the physical manifestation of God's being. Yours are the physical manifestations of God. So if you want to feel the physical aspect of God, then touch your neighbor, hug him, kiss her. That is God in the physical realm.
 
But if you want to see God in an abstract form, in Light, in splendor, in Heaven, then I have to show you in an abstract way, you understand? There are two ways: abstract and physical. Physical, you see already. Abstract, I'll show you. Later when we have time together and sit quietly, I'll show you. I will tell you what to do and where to see God. It's very quick. How do I know? If I love somebody, do I know? If I sit here in Africa, do I know? To know God, it is like that. Very, very clear. There's no mistake about it. I just can only show you by yourself, but I cannot show you in physical because this is a different aspect of life.



*Master, I ask you to show us what is the right way of praying.

Yes, I will do that. I will do that. I will offer you three kinds of service. Number one is the public service: after all the questions are finished, you sit here with me and experience God for a while, and you continue at home if you want - 10 minutes, 5 minutes, any time you want. The number two is the Convenient Method: you meditate like half an hour every day, all right? Number three is the full, conscious effort to realize God. That's initiation. So you choose.

That would take a couple of hours of explanation. But the enlightenment is fast, and you can experience every day the same, or higher and higher. I am here only for the one who is ready.


 

*How different is spirituality from your method? Is God with us or a part of us? How or what will our experience be during our initiation?

You will see God. You will see the aspect of God which is Light, which is different, like, melodies of the universe. The way Hes speaks to you is not in human language. Hes speaks in the melodious voice, like the sound of water. It's mentioned in the Bible that Hes speaks like thunder, like the sound of many waters. This you will experience, and more, more, because the Bible doesn't record everything.
 
You'll have too much experience, you can't write 1,000 books - never enough! So one Bible is not enough. But at least there's some reference - like Moses sees God as a big flame, Saint John enters the Third Heaven and hears the trumpet, things like that, etc., etc. You will experience. You will know it.

This is not something we can describe in language, really. You just know it when God's presence is near, or when you contact, when you remember again. Hes is always near. Just remember.
 


*The world is in a crisis today - wars, pollution, disease, etc. Have we collectively created this crisis just so we can experience greater glory?

Yes. But we could have done better now, since we know better. It was a mistake. Now we have to repair it. We can't just continue making mistakes forever, and say, "Okay, I am creating all this so that I can experience Heaven.” Yes.

There is a part of creating havoc, and there is a part of creating Heaven, so we have to balance it. We can't continue destroying our world forever by pollution, by cutting down forests, and by warring with each other. It's time to wake up. We've had enough suffering already.
 


*Master, what will happen when you leave this world? Will there be others to continue your lineage? Who will initiate the people? Who will be there to guide us?

God! You worry too far. At that time, you will know. God will decide. God will decide whether there is someone to continue, and Hes will let you know. If you are ready, everything will be known to you. If you are not ready, even if ten hundred masters come, it's no use. If you are ready, everything will be known to you. Don't worry, okay? Meanwhile, get initiation while I am still here. The master dies but the spirit doesn't die, so you'll continue to be guided until you've finished your journey. Whoever is initiated by one master will continue with that. It doesn't matter if the master passes away. And the new one will come if God decides so.
 


*In the Bible it is written: "Repent from your sins, then your prayers will be answered." My question is: How will God answer the prayer of a sinner?

Your question is a little bit less complete than it should be. This is the part when God talked to the people who killed a lot of animals for offering, so Hes said, "Who told you to kill all these she-sheep and he-bullocks to make offering to me? Your hands are full of blood! You should stop the killing of the innocents.
 
Otherwise, when you pray, I will not answer; when you request, I will turn my head away." So that is in that section. So, actually, in the Bible, it mentions also that we should not even kill to make offering, let alone to eat. Yes? Because God created them for our pleasure - not to kill. Anyhow, if we repent, of course, that means we... Repent doesn't mean we should feel guilty about what we did.
 
We did what we did - it's a part of the game. It was a part of our process of knowing God. So now we have created enough of the non-God actions, so now is the time to return to Godly action. So once we make this decision to stop the unGodly action and return to Godly action, at that time God gives us the answer right away, like today. Doesn't matter how many people committed sins or whatever you did, you don't have to tell me. At the time you sit down for initiation, God will come to you all the same.
 
So that means if you repent your sins, means you don't do it again, God will appear to you. Hes will today, if you sit down for a while later. In fact, some of you already experience Light here. Is that not so? True? Can you raise your hand if you have? Thank you. My God! Aren't you spiritual!
 
Thanks so much. It's the first time I'm in Africa. I told you, God is indiscriminating. Hes loves every one of us. As soon as you want Hirm, as soon as you sincerely yearn for Hirm, Hes is there - even if you don't meditate yet, even if I didn't even show you yet. See? God is all love, nothing else. Don't fear God - ever. Hes always loves us. As long as we want Hirm, Hes comes. Hes loves us, Hes blesses us, Hes graces us with all things in life, this and after.
 


*Should we kill insects - flies, cockroaches, fleas, etc.?

It's better to make your house clean. And do some prevention outside the house, so that there is a smell, they don't come near. So you don't have to actually kill them, all right? Because God doesn't punish, but your conscience feels bad. When you kill something, you feel, "My God, he's so little, so helpless, and I killed him just like that." Even though you don't feel it much, your conscience will awake at night sometimes and feel something biting you. And that's the ants or the cockroaches coming, reminding you, nibbling you, “You shouldn't have done that!”
 


*Can you explain what are dreams or dreaming?

There are three kinds of dreams. One is some, like, clairvoyant kind of warnings or prediction of the coming event for you. That is when you are in very deep, deep sleep and more aware of your future or the past. Another kind of dream is that whatever you wish in the daytime or you think of much in the daytime before you sleep, it will appear in your dream; just a leftover of the impression of the daytime. And the last kind of dream is just nonsensical whatever, no meaning. Just collect all kinds of garbage in your brain, and then when you sleep it's too full, it just like leaks out.



*In the Bible, we read that Abraham's sons slaughtered animals for their father. Was it a sin?

In the old time, people believed to make offering to God. Even now they still do that. They even slaughter animals to offer to the God within their body, every day. Abraham's son did something, that's his business. My business is not to slaughter any animal. Anyhow, people have different ways of life, different choices, to know God. They choose to do it quick; they choose to do it slow.

So that's why I say there are three kinds of offer here to you. For those of you who like to do it slow or leisurely, because you have eternity anyhow, so you can just have a taste of it, a few minutes. For those of you who are a little more serious, go for Convenient Method. For those of you who really get fed up with this life and really want to know God, nothing else, then go get initiation, full. You see? I am not here to criticize you and tell you, “You eat meat, you are sinful.” No, no. I am just reminding you of many choices that you want to make. So you decide now which choice you stay with or which choice you continue or next perfection you choose. Next choice, or stay with this choice.



*Jesus Christ fed 5,000 people with bread and fish. Fish is meat. Was that a sin? Jesus also helped fishermen get more fish. Was that a sin?

No. The sin is that we did not understand him. He did not eat fish; he did not feed fish, either. We also eat “fish” every day, but eat vegetarian “fish.” We also call it “fish.” We call it “hamburger,” sometimes we call “veggie hamburger.” Sometimes we are lazy, we call it “hamburger.” We have things like “chicken,” we have things like steamed “fish.”
 
All these are vegetarian. It tastes delicious! And if you are a non-vegetarian and the first time you taste them - it looks like a fish, it tastes like fish - you probably do not know. If we tell you that it's fish, you would believe it. If we tell you it's a hamburger, you would believe it. So, Jesus was a descendant of a clan that has been always vegetarian for thousands of years. If you want to do more research about the Lord's life, you'd better take more time.
 
And also, he went to study in India for 13 years. That's the missing gap in the Bible that you couldn't explain. And if he studied in India, and all the yogis there, the masters, ate vegetarian, how could he eat meat again? That's the two factors you have missed. Of course, the Bible cannot record everything for you; you have to do some research. Yes?
 
The church doesn't want you to be lazy, and put everything on the table. You have to be creative and long for... If you long to know the life of Jesus you have to research yourself, read more books and history and facts and more new findings and all that. Anyhow, the fishermen Jesus recruited, he did not tell them to fish again. He said, "Come, I will teach you how to fish men.” No? Yes, he said, "Put down the net, I'll teach you how to fish men.”
 
But since they were fishermen, Jesus used the term as a fisherman sometimes to talk to them. Just like, "Okay, today we catch a big fish" - means they have a good person to get initiated. We say the same thing sometimes, also.

Why do I understand all this? Because I have direct teaching. If you want to understand, you also need the direct teaching. I told you I will show you how to get direct teaching from Jesus. Then you can argue with him and he will tell you he doesn't eat fish. A poor master!

Everybody tells him he did that, he did this. He'd tell you different, but you couldn't hear. So, similarly, you remember how difficult it was for Jesus, how many people harassed him and persecuted him and his disciples? So they have to talk in code, said, "Today we have a big `fishing' time," or something like that... or, "Let's go out `fishing.'"
 
Because if he really needs fishing, he wouldn't tell his 12 disciples, saying: "Come! Forget it. I'll teach you how to fish men." Now you know. Thanks. The Lord did not eat anything that caused suffering to other beings. He would not. He was a very humble man. He was great in spirit, but very humble and self-denial outside. He did not need fish to keep him alive. There's so much things to eat in this planet to keep yourself alive.
 
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