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Science & Spirituality
Dr. Fred Alan Wolf and Quantum Spirituality - P2/3  
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	This leads naturally into 
the simple recognition of 
the great spiritual wisdom. 
There is only one mind 
because mind separated 
into separate parcels 
of space and time 
makes no sense 
from the point of view 
of quantum physics. 
And the theory 
of entanglement 
is one of the indications 
of the truth 
of that statement.
  
Welcome, 
thoughtful viewers, to 
Science and Spirituality 
on Supreme Master 
Television. 
This program is part two
of a three-part series 
featuring an interview 
with a popular 
quantum physicist, 
author and lecturer 
from the United States, 
Dr. Fred Alan Wolf. 
  
Dr. Wolf earned a Ph.D. 
in theoretical physics 
from the University 
of California – 
Los Angeles, USA 
in 1963.  
He has lectured 
across the world, conducted 
extensive research 
in his field, written
many award-winning 
books such as 
“Taking 
the Quantum Leap” and 
“The Spiritual Universe,” 
and served as 
the resident physicist on 
the Discovery Channel 
program “The Know Zone.” 
Dr. Wolf has appeared 
in popular films such as 
“What The Bleep 
Do We Know” 
and “The Secret.”  
  
He is known for
explaining the complex
laws of quantum physics
in an engaging way
so that non-scientists can
better understand them
and see
how they relate to 
spiritual principles. 
His fascinating work 
has sparked the interest 
of many to deeply inquire 
into the very nature of 
existence and the mind.
  
Last week Dr. Wolf 
explained what led him 
to become interested in 
the relationship 
between quantum physics 
and spirituality. 
Today he provides 
his perspective 
on fascinating subjects 
ranging from 
the nature of reality, 
to the quantum 
entanglement theory to 
how quantum computers 
could possibly develop 
their own consciousness 
in the future.
  
A good question is 
what is reality? 
And what does it mean 
to talk about reality 
in any significant way? 
Clearly there seems to be 
some boundaries between 
what we call “what’s real.” 
You have your reality, 
I have my reality. 
That seems to be the case. 
However when you begin 
to look deeply 
into this question 
of quantum physics, and 
how mind enters into it, 
we cannot find a boundary 
from one mind to the next. 
We cannot find anything 
which distinguishes 
your mind from my mind. 
We have the experience 
of such a distinguishing 
going on. 
  
But if you really look at it, 
and I look at you, 
and I say to myself, 
“That’s a human being,” 
but I don’t have 
any experience of you 
other than
what I am experiencing 
from my natural senses, 
I’m not inside your head 
looking out your eyeballs, 
so I don’t know 
what you’re seeing, 
I don’t know what you’re 
smelling or tasting. 
I can imagine 
what those things are, 
but I don’t have 
an experience of that. 
  
So that’s a tendency to say 
that well since we seem 
to have separate bodies, 
we must have 
separate minds.  
But according to what 
we understand about mind, 
it doesn’t have any place 
where you can make 
the compartmentalization 
take place. 
In fact Erwin Schrödinger 
one of the founders 
of quantum physics, 
actually came up with 
a proof that there wasn’t 
any separation 
between various minds 
even though it appears 
that there are.   
  
That would bring us 
into the quantum 
entanglement theory. 
Can you explain that?
  
Well, in quantum 
entanglement it can 
involve mind, of course, 
but what it involves is 
what happens 
after what is called 
an interaction. 
When things interact 
we usually have a picture 
of an interaction 
as something 
coming together 
and flying apart, 
bindle-bangle, 
that’s an interaction. 
And the question 
then becomes 
if I know what’s going on 
before the interaction 
can I say what’s going on 
after the interaction? 
  
Now if these were billiard 
balls, classical snooker, 
or some game like that 
and you hit a ball 
and bounce it 
against another ball, 
the snooker players and 
billiard ball players know 
how to control that. 
So they can say given 
that I push the white ball 
with a certain amount 
of momentum 
and hit it a certain way, 
it’s going to hit the red ball 
and it’s going to 
fall over this way and 
everything is correlated – 
co-related – correlated; 
(it’s the) same word. 
  
In other words, 
I have control 
the initial conditions 
which are the ball 
I am trying to hit 
which is at rest 
on the green maze table 
and the little white ball 
I am hitting with my cue. 
I have control over the 
position and the momenta 
of both objects 
so I could predict what 
the position and momenta 
of the two objects are 
after they hit and fly apart. 
Momenta being 
mass times velocity or 
the movement of the object 
as it goes flying off 
in a given direction – 
that’s called momentum. 
  
Anyway that’s fine 
but in quantum physics 
we have no such control. 
We don’t know exactly 
the position and momenta 
of each object 
to begin with; 
but once they interact 
they become 
what is called entangled. 
They become a correlation 
which means 
since we don’t know 
exactly where they are 
the question arises: 
What do we know 
of these objects? 
  
And the question then is 
answered with this answer. 
We do know that if 
you measure the position 
of the object on the left 
after the interaction you 
can predict the position 
of the object on the right 
after the interaction. 
But if you decide to 
measure the momentum 
of the object on the left 
after the interaction 
you could predict 
the momentum 
of the object on the right 
after the interaction. 
  
But you cannot predict 
both the position 
and the momenta 
of either object 
after the interaction. 
Even if you measure both 
at the same time 
you cannot determine 
what the other object 
is going to have. 
Entanglement tells us 
that they are 
correlated provided 
you ask one question 
but not both. 
It’s a kind of a funny 
kind of 20 questions 
thing that you can’t ask 
all the questions at once. 
So you can’t determine 
the answers to all of them.
  
There seems to be a buzz 
going around about 
quantum computing. (Yes) 
What’s going on 
in this field?
  
Well, let me explain 
as basically as I can about 
the difference between 
a quantum computation 
and a normal computation. 
Computers are 
very simple basic tools 
that are very complicated 
because the very basic tool 
is multiplied by 
a zillion times. 
The basic tool is simply 
up or down, on or off, 
zero or one: that’s the tool. 
In other words, 
it’s a switch. 
All computers are 
a bunch of switches. 
  
Think of a switch 
as something 
which you can throw 
as going down or up, 
up/down, two switch 
positions and that is 
an ordinary computer, 
a whole bunch of these 
things, billions of them. 
And that’s how it works. 
Basically, change the 
positions of the switches; 
there are two possible 
positions here, there is 
another one over here, 
two more – that’s 
four possible positions. 
  
They can be both up; 
they can be both this way; 
they can be like this; 
or they can be like this. 
Now put three of them in, 
that means two 
(possible positions) 
times three (switches)
which is eight 
(possible positions)
and so forth … 
so two to the power of 
how many different 
switches there are is 
the power of the computer. 
It could be very large. 
Two to the power of ten 
is already more than 
a thousand so you can see 
that you could get a lot of 
different possibilities. 
  
Now we come to 
a quantum computer. 
It’s also made of switches 
but all these positions 
in between are allowed 
and can be computed 
in combination 
with the other ones. 
So there is an infinite 
variety in each switch 
of possible positions. 
So you have as many as 
different possible positions 
this has multiplied by 
as many switches 
as there are and you have 
a quantum computer. 
Of course, because 
they are so flimsy in a way, 
they are not very robust; 
you have to 
really isolate them 
to make sure that you 
don’t make them snap. 
  
Now the thing which makes 
quantum computation 
of interest is that 
even though there are 
all these different 
positions possible when 
you make computations, 
when you don’t actually 
observe what’s going on 
(very important, 
you don’t look). 
When you actually observe 
any one of these switches 
what you instantly get is 
this (up) or that (down), 
but never anything 
in-between.
  
Is that because of 
the observing effect?
  
That’s exactly it.
  
Okay.
  
So what a quantum 
computer does: 
it has way of observing, 
or bringing in the observer 
and the question is 
whether the machine 
can observe its own state 
or not.
It’s still an open question. 
I will lend a little bit of 
speculation here. 
If it’s possible 
that we can build 
a self-observing 
quantum computer 
it would be as conscious 
as a self-observing 
human being. 
  
It will also think about God 
and questions like that. 
A thinking, 
really conscious being 
in a computer – 
a being essentially able 
to do what we can do, 
which is to make things 
snap one way or the other. 
But it’s the possibilities 
which all these different 
possible positions 
can add up 
because what we have 
in quantum physics 
is something called 
“superposition 
possibilities.” 
  
If one switch is like this 
and the one next to it 
is like that, 
then the two add together 
like making vectors – 
you have one like this, 
one like that, 
and you can add them up 
and you get a whole bunch 
of different vectors going 
in all different directions 
and you get many, 
infinitely many 
different possibilities. 
  
Whereas with only 
this kind of computer 
(up or down, on or off), 
it’s either 
this adds with this one 
makes that one, 
or it goes down. 
You don’t get 
any in-betweens and 
therefore you don’t get 
any states associated with 
any of the in-betweens; 
whereas 
in quantum computers 
you can actually get 
something associated with 
the in-betweens provided 
you don’t look at what’s 
going on in-between.
  
It’s a very fascinating field. 
It’s one of the biggest 
fields in thinking today 
in quantum physics. 
Almost all the papers 
appearing right now 
have different aspects 
of quantum computation 
because it affects everything. 
  
We would like to again 
thank Dr. Fred Alan Wolf 
for explaining complex 
quantum physics concepts 
in a highly engaging 
manner and 
offering his insights on 
science, consciousness 
and spirituality. 
Bright viewers, please 
join us next Monday on 
Science and Spirituality 
for the conclusion of 
our three part interview 
with Dr. Wolf. 
  
For more details 
on Dr. Fred A. Wolf, 
please visit 
Books, CDs, and DVDs 
by Dr. Wolf 
are available 
at the same website
  
Thank you 
for your company today 
on our show. 
Coming up next is 
Words of Wisdom, 
after Noteworthy News
here on 
Supreme Master Television. 
May the wonders 
of the universe 
forever inspire us all.        
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