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HEALTHY LIVING
Dr. Neal Barnard: Eating Right for Cancer Survival - P7/8   
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	Welcome friendly viewers 
to Healthy Living 
on Supreme Master 
Television. 
According to the World 
Health Organization, 
cancer is one of 
the leading causes of death 
in the world. 
Each year 
over 12 million people 
across the globe 
are diagnosed 
with cancer 
and 7.6 million 
succumb to the disease. 
The numbers are projected 
to continue rising, 
with an estimated 
12 million deaths 
by 2030. 
  
Today we have the honor 
to share the seventh part 
of an eight part series 
featuring excerpts from 
The Cancer Project’s 
“Eating Right 
for Cancer Survival,” 
a two-set DVD 
of presentations 
by esteemed nutrition 
researcher and author 
Dr. Neal Barnard, MD 
that is a companion 
to the book The Cancer 
Survivor’s Guide 
written by Dr. Barnard 
and registered dietician 
Jennifer Reilly.
  
Dr. Barnard, a vegan, 
is the president 
of The Cancer Project, 
a US-based non-profit 
organization advancing 
cancer prevention and 
survival through 
distribution of
information on nutrition 
and research. 
Since its founding in 2004, 
the Project has strived 
to promote the vegan diet 
as the answer to cancer.
  
The Cancer Project is 
a part of 
the Physicians Committee 
for Responsible Medicine, 
a group created by 
Dr. Barnard in 1985 
that is comprised of 
physicians and 
concerned citizens 
in the US wishing to 
improve public health. 
The Committee is also 
actively involved in 
raising awareness 
of the benefits 
of a plant-based diet 
through such projects 
as the 21-Day 
Vegan Kickstart program 
and seeking to amend 
federal nutrition guidelines.
  
Dr. Barnard has served as 
the principal investigator 
on many clinical studies 
examining the links 
between diet and health 
and his work has been 
published in top scientific 
and medical journals.  
He is often interviewed 
by the national media 
in the US 
for his perspectives 
on important issues 
in nutrition, health 
and medicine.  
  
We are now pleased 
to show 
Dr. Barnard’s presentations 
“Maintaining
a Healthy Weight” and
 “Foods and
Prostate Cancer Survival,”  
two chapters from the 
“Eating Right for 
Cancer Survival” DVD.
  
Maintaining 
a Healthy Weight 
from the DVD  
“Eating Right 
for Cancer Survival”
  
One of 
the most important things 
that a healthy person can do 
to avoid getting cancer is 
to keep their body weight 
down to normal limits. 
And one of 
the most important things 
that a person 
who has been diagnosed 
with cancer can do, is to 
keep excess weight away 
as well, because 
the heavier you are, 
not only are you more 
likely to develop cancer, 
if you have it already, 
you are more likely 
to succumb to it. 
  
What is body fat 
doing to us? 
Body fat is not just 
stored energy, body fat is 
a living organ and 
body fat actually makes 
estrogen, you can see this 
on the beach. 
If you look at a guy who’s 
developed a little bit of 
extra body fat, and 
he’s now pretty chunky, 
he has breast development, 
that’s not just fat, that’s 
breast tissue that came 
because his body fat 
is building estrogens 
and estrogens is causing 
the development 
of breasts in a man, 
and ultimately 
it will cause impotence. 
  
And if he loses weight 
those estrogens diminish 
and those problems 
will tend to reverse. 
Now this happens 
in women as well, 
both women and men. 
And in women the concern 
is that if there’s more and 
more estrogen coursing 
through your blood, 
all it takes 
is one cancer cell, 
and that estrogen 
causes the cell to grow. 
  
Researchers 
have long known 
that Japanese woman 
are less likely 
than Western woman to 
develop breast cancer and 
if they have breast cancer 
they are much more likely 
to survive it. 
Well the fact that 
they are generally slimmer 
than Western people 
could be a big part 
of the reason.
  
Researchers have 
discovered that 
indeed their hormones 
are somewhat lower levels 
compared to other folks, 
there’s less fuel for 
the cancer cells to grow. 
And it isn’t just 
a question of, am I 
massively overweight versus 
moderately overweight? 
It even makes a difference 
when a person is 
different gradations 
of normal weight. 
  
There was study 
in Shanghai (China) 
that looked at individuals 
of different body weights 
and we would consider them 
all pretty much normal. 
They were using the BMI. 
Do you know 
what I’m talking about, 
body mass index? 
The body mass index 
or BMI is a way of 
measuring your weight, 
but adjusting 
for your height. 
Because what’s 
an ideal weight for you 
depends on 
how tall you are. 
  
And an optimal body weight, 
people would say 
is under 25. 
If you’re over 25 BMI 
that’s going to be 
mildly overweight. 
If you’re over 30 that 
would be called obese. 
Okay, that’s 
our frame of reference. 
The study in Shanghai, 
they looked at women, 
everybody had 
breast cancer, but some 
had a BMI under 23, 
that means 
they’re thin women, and 
their five-year survival rate 
was about 87%. 
  
But they then looked at 
those women who were 
between 23 and 25, 
they’re still normal weight 
but they’re just 
a little bit heavier. 
Their five-year survival 
rate wasn’t 87%; 
it was down to about 84%. 
Then they looked at those 
whose body weight was 
over 25, in the mildly 
overweight area 
and their five- year 
survival rate was 
down to about 80%. 
You get the picture? 
  
The heavier you are 
the greater your likelihood 
of succumbing 
to this condition, so 
you want to stay down to 
a healthy kind of weight. 
So when people 
are overweight 
what do they do? 
Often they don’t know 
what to do, 
so they stop eating. 
You skip meals, 
you starve yourself, and 
you go on a punishing 
low calorie diet. 
And regrettably 
that’s not going to last. 
  
For any of you who, 
you know this is true, 
if you’ve ever been 
on this kind of diet, 
“I’m really going to 
starve it off!” 
We end up rebounding, 
hunger takes over and
you’re going to end up 
binging and putting back 
however much weight 
you lost and then some. 
So don’t do that. 
  
Look around the world 
and eat the way 
thin people eat. 
The thinnest people 
on the planet live in Asia, 
vegetarians are also thin. 
And they have 
different characteristics 
compared to what we have 
in Western countries.
They’re eating diets 
that are first of all 
much lower in fat; 
they’re not eating 
lots of meat and cheese 
and fried foods, they’re 
eating rice, vegetables. 
And if they’re eating meat 
it’s little tiny amounts, 
used as a flavoring. 
  
Of course 
this is all changing, 
as diets are westernizing, 
meat is coming in, 
dairy products 
are coming in 
to Asian countries, with 
this unfortunate process 
of the westernization 
of the diet. 
  
But, when researchers 
have put that kind of diet 
to a test, amongst 
Western populations, 
“Let’s eat 
a plant-based diet,” 
they find 
that people lose weight 
in a healthful kind of way. 
My research group 
did a study in women 
who had moderate to 
severe weight problems, 
and we asked them 
to follow a diet that was 
vegan, and low in fat. 
  
That was the whole diet, 
just avoid 
the animal products, 
so there’s no animal fat, 
and keep 
the vegetable oils low. 
Now when you take those 
out of the diet, that makes
room for vegetables, 
fruits, beans and grains 
that are high in fiber. 
So the diet’s filling, low 
in fat. What happened? 
  
As time went by, 
the women lost weight 
week after week after week, 
the average weight loss 
was about a pound week. 
Doesn’t sound like much, 
except, after a year, 
52-weeks in a year, 
you’re talking 
serious weight loss and 
that’s exactly what we saw. 
So the nice thing 
about this is, 
you don’t have to starve, 
you don’t have to 
exercise necessarily, 
exercise is good, 
but if you’re not able to 
for whatever reason, 
your joints are bad, 
your heart is bad, 
you can still lose weight.
  
So, to put this all 
together, what is 
a weight-loss regiment? 
A good weight loss diet is 
the same kind of diet 
that’s good to keep 
your cholesterol down, 
to reduce 
your cancer risk overall. 
It’s getting away 
from the animal products. 
That means 
avoiding the meats 
and the dairy products 
and the eggs. 
And in the process, 
you’re not just 
avoiding their fat, 
you’re avoiding 
their cholesterol, 
and you’re making room 
for the high fiber foods. 
  
Keep the oils very low, 
every gram of oil, 
every gram of any kind 
of fat has nine calories. 
Those calories 
have your name on them, 
and if you eat them it will 
straight to your thighs. 
Instead, bring in 
the high fiber foods, the 
high carbohydrate beans, 
vegetables and fruits. 
Carbohydrates have only 
four calories in a gram. 
So, that’s 
a healthful regiment. 
  
And don’t go off 
on high-protein diets, the 
low carbohydrate (diets), 
you know 
what I’m talking about, 
they’ve been very popular, 
they cause 
short-term weight loss. 
But over the long run, 
people tend not to do 
very well on them, and 
they have, unfortunately, 
some rather 
bad side effects. 
  
Because the diets are 
so low in carbohydrates, 
people are avoiding 
starchy vegetables, 
they’re avoiding fruits, 
they’re avoiding breads, 
they’re avoiding pasta, 
they’re avoiding rice, and 
instead, they are eating, 
meat and eggs and cheese. 
Some people’s 
cholesterol will fall, 
if they’re losing weight 
on it, but others, 
their cholesterol is up. 
About one in three 
low-carbohydrate dieters, 
has their cholesterol 
go up, sometimes it goes 
right up through the roof. 
You don’t want to be 
one of them. 
And you don’t need 
that kind of approach. 
  
So, it’s a good idea, to 
follow a plant-based diet, 
bring the exercise into it, 
exercise is good. 
Exercise, well, 
for a couple of reasons, 
it burns calories, 
it’s also impossible 
to eat potato chips 
while you’re out running. 
So, bring it in, 
in a good way. 
  
And if you have any 
kind of health condition, 
definitely 
see your doctor first. 
You want to make sure 
your heart is up to it, 
you want to make sure 
your joints are up to it, 
and the rest of your body 
is up to it. 
But when got your 
green light, go ahead. 
  
How do you start? 
I start small. 
About a half hour walk 
every day, and 
I don’t mean a trudge, 
I mean a brisk walk, 
and then gradually 
build up from there. 
And then, if you want 
to do more than that, 
go ahead. 
If you want to do 
resistance training, 
you know what I mean, 
like weight training, 
go see a professional 
and get a good regiment 
that’s tailored 
for your own needs. 
  
Put it together, and 
you’ve got a really good 
weight loss program, 
because you’re on foods 
that are going to 
work for you, 
plus an exercise program 
that works for you as well. 
And that’s 
the best prescription  
for weight control. 
Thank you very much.
  
“Food and 
Prostate Cancer Survival” 
is the next lecture 
by Dr. Barnard.
  
Food and 
Prostate Cancer Survival 
from the DVD 
“Food and 
Prostate Cancer Survival”
  
Halo and welcome. 
Prostate cancer is 
a leading killer 
and it doesn’t have to be, 
because if we take lessons 
from around the world 
and people who follow 
different kinds of diets, 
we get clues about 
how we can actually 
reduce the likelihood 
that this will happen 
in our own lives. 
  
And for men who already 
have prostate cancer, 
there’s a lot 
they can do to hold it 
beyond arm’s length. 
Let me share with you 
a couple of things, 
first of all the good news. 
There is something in foods 
that is actually protective 
against prostate cancer 
and that is the red coloring 
in tomatoes. 
Anybody know 
what that’s called? 
  
Lycopene.
  
Very good, lycopene, 
lycopene, l-y-c-o-p-e-n-e. 
Lycopene is a cousin 
of beta-carotene. 
In the same way as carrots 
get their orange color 
from beta-carotene, 
a tomato gets its red color 
from lycopene. 
It’s a powerful antioxidant. 
  
And studies have shown 
that men who have just 
two tomato servings 
per week 
have about 23% less risk 
of prostate cancer 
compared to other men. 
Men who have 10 or 
more servings per week, 
have a 35% reduction 
in their likelihood of ever 
developing this disease 
compared to men 
who get less. 
  
And the nice thing is, 
it happens even with 
spaghetti sauce, salsa, 
all that you don’t think of
these as healthy foods 
but they’ve got a lot of 
lycopene in them 
and it will pass 
into your bloodstream 
and it will protect you. 
  
Now there are some things 
that aren’t so healthful. 
Milk products 
surprisingly enough are 
associated with a higher 
risk of prostate cancer. 
And this first came out 
of studies comparing 
different countries. 
  
Countries like Thailand, 
Japan, and China. 
On a traditional diet 
there is very little dairy 
products, very little milk, 
very little of any kind of 
dairy products in their diet. 
You compare that 
to Finland, Sweden, 
Switzerland, 
lots of dairy products and 
you see a clear pattern 
the more dairy men eat 
the more prostate cancer 
risk they have. 
  
So researches at 
Harvard (University, USA) 
said “That’s interesting. 
But would that be true 
in this country?” 
And so they did a study 
called The Physicians’ 
Health Study. 
They took about 
21,000 men, 
everybody is a physician, 
everybody is healthy, 
and nobody’s got cancer. 
They look at their diets. 
  
And what they find is 
exactly what we find 
comparing 
different countries, 
that those men who had 
the most dairy products 
as part of their regular diet 
two and a half servings 
or more per day, 
they had about 
a 34% increased risk of 
developing prostate cancer. 
Well that’s intriguing, 
seems to confirm the finding. 
  
They did another study 
called 
The Health Professionals 
Follow up Study. 
These were 
health professionals 
who were not physicians, 
and what they found was 
exactly the same thing. 
Among about 48,000 men, 
those who consumed 
more than two glasses 
of milk per day 
had in this case 
about 60% higher risk of 
prostate cancer 
compared to other men. 
How can that be? 
  
We’re talking about milk. 
We grew up with this, 
our parents wanted us 
to consume it, you go to 
the school lunch line, and 
they want you to have it. 
It’s heavily promoted. 
Why is it linked 
with cancer? 
Well there are 
several possible reasons 
but the one that people 
have really zeroed in 
on the most is something 
called IGF-1, Insulin-like 
Growth Factor number 1. 
  
What’s IGF-1? 
This is a bit of a mouthful,  
they should have invented 
a shorter name for it, 
but that’s the name 
we’re stuck with. 
Insulin-like, 
means like insulin. 
It puts sugar into cells. 
But it’s a growth factor; 
that means if I mix IGF-1 
with prostate cancer cells 
in the test tube, 
they grow like crazy. 
I think of it 
as fertilizer on weeds. 
  
So if a man is avoiding 
milk, where is he going to 
get his calcium? 
Well, I like to think of 
two sources, 
the greens and the beans. 
When I say greens, 
what do I mean? 
Green vegetables, broccoli, 
kale, collard greens; 
just about any of 
the green vegetables, 
they’ve got a lot of calcium, 
one exception spinach. 
Spinach is 
a very selfish vegetable. 
It’s got calcium but 
it won’t let you have it. 
It has calcium, 
it’s just not absorbable. 
  
But the others, 
they actually have 
a higher absorption rate, 
a higher absorption 
percentage than milk does. 
Broccoli more than 50% 
of the calcium in broccoli 
is absorbed, 
for milk it’s about 32%. 
So the greens are good. 
The beans are good as well. 
Just about 
any of the beans. 
They’ve got 
lots of calcium in them 
and the greens and beans 
are a good source. 
  
But don’t feel that you need 
to have an enormous 
amount of calcium. 
A little bit goes a long way. 
Researchers have said, 
if it seems to be the case 
that a diet rich in 
vegetables and fruits, 
bringing you that lycopene, 
if that’s protective; 
getting away 
from dairy products 
and fatty food that 
seems to be protective. 
  
What if I test it in men 
who have prostate cancer 
already? 
I want to share with you 
two important studies. 
One was by a researcher 
named Gordon Saxe 
at the University 
of Massachusetts (USA). 
It was a small study. 
He brought in 10 men, 
and what he was tracking 
was called 
PSA doubling time. 
What is that? PSA. 
Prostate Specific Antigen. 
  
All this is, is a protein 
that’s in the blood and 
it’s made by prostate cells 
so if it’s going up and up 
and up and up and up 
that means there must be 
prostate cancer 
somewhere or something 
abnormal in the prostate 
that’s causing it to rise. 
It’s a good indicator 
of how we’re doing 
with prostate health. 
And they measured 
doubling time. 
How long does it take for 
it to go from two to four? 
Four to eight? 
Eight to 16? 
If it doesn’t take much time, 
that means the cancer 
is rapidly progressing. 
Okay. 
  
They brought the men in, 
they asked them to follow 
a very low fat vegan diet, 
meaning 
no animal products at all, 
very low in oils. 
And what they found was 
that their doubling time, 
which started out 
at about 6.5 months, 
meaning it took that long 
for  it to double, 
it was stretched out  
in the course of this study 
to about 17. 7 months. 
Meaning their PSA’s 
on average were rising 
but very, very slowly. 
  
And there were several men 
in this study 
where the PSA actually 
started to fall. 
Well that’s encouraging, 
it looks like things are 
going in the right direction. 
So Dr. Dean Ornish, 
who became famous 
for showing that 
a vegetarian diet 
could actually reverse 
heart disease, which is 
a terrific finding, 
the arteries open up again. 
He said what happens 
about prostate cancer? 
It ought to be helpful 
there too.  
  
So he brought in 93 men. 
Everybody had 
prostate cancer but 
they were in this group 
they call 
“watchful waiting,” 
that means 
you’ve got the cancer 
but it’s not progressing 
really aggressively. 
You can wait 
before you get treatment. 
The doctor tracks 
their PSA and if it’s not 
shooting up too fast 
they just wait. 
  
In the control group, 
this group was not asked 
to make any diet change; 
the experimental group 
went on a vegan diet, 
no animal products at all, 
no dairy products, 
that ought to be good 
right from the standpoint 
of prostate cancer. 
Here is what happened. 
  
In the control group, 
people that 
didn’t make diet changes 
their PSA’s did 
what PSA does 
in cancer patients, 
it was rising. 
In the course of the study 
it went up about six percent 
and out of the 49 men 
in that group six of them 
couldn’t wait anymore. 
Their cancer was 
progressing so aggressively 
they had to go 
and have treatment.
  
But what about 
the vegan group, 
these people who learned 
how to have oatmeal 
for breakfast, and how to 
have vegetables and fruits 
in their diet; 
how to top their spaghetti, 
not with that 
creamy Alfredo sauce but 
with a tomato sauce that 
gets away from the dairy 
and brings in the lycopene.
In that group 
the PSA wasn’t rising, 
it wasn’t holding steady, 
it actually on average 
fell about four percent, 
in other words 
they’re getting better. 
And not one of the men 
on the vegan diet 
needed treatment during 
this research study. 
  
Don’t get me wrong. 
Prostate cancer 
like all cancers 
is a serious condition. 
We want to have good 
methods for detecting it; 
we want to have good 
methods for treating it. 
But if we change our diet 
we really can 
tackle this epidemic. 
Thank you very much. 
  
For more details on 
The Cancer Project, 
please visit 
www.CancerProject.org 
The two-set DVD 
“Eating Right 
for Cancer Survival” 
and The Cancer 
Survivor’s Guide, 
a free to download e-book, 
are available 
at the same website
  
Next episode… 
Dr. Neal Barnard: 
Eating Right 
for Cancer Survival – 
Part 8 of 8
“Foods and
Breast Cancer Survival”
Monday, 
January 17, 2011
  
Thank you 
esteemed viewers,
for being with us 
on today’s program. 
Please join us Monday,
January 17, 2011
on Healthy Living 
for the conclusion 
of this eight part series. 
Up next is 
Science and Spirituality, 
after Noteworthy News, 
here on 
Supreme Master Television. 
May your spirit always 
be filled with 
vibrancy and vitality.       
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