Every year in May, 
the Roma people in Europe, 
also known as 
the Romani people, 
gather for
a religious festival 
in honor of Saint Sara
in the town of 
Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer, 
France. 
This southern coastal town 
is the capital 
of the Camargue, 
which is the region 
between
the Mediterranean Sea and 
the Rhone River delta.
Hallo, loving viewers. 
Today, we are at 
Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer, 
located in 
the south of France. 
A seaside resort, 
this village is also 
the capital of Camargue, 
a magnificent humid area 
located in the Rhone delta. 
The Rhone is 
a European river 
that flows into 
the Mediterranean Sea. 
During a few days, the 
Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer 
village reunites 
Roma people 
from all over Europe. 
They will be thousands 
right behind me, 
coming to honor 
their patron saint Sara, 
the Black Madonna.
With its 
devotional atmosphere, 
Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer 
is said to be the place 
where the three 
Biblical Marys – 
Mary Magdalene, 
Mary Salome 
and Mary Jacobe – 
sailed to from Palestine 
after witnessing 
the resurrection of Jesus. 
Legend has it 
that these three saints 
had a maid 
by the name of Sara. 
Sara was known 
to be a kind woman 
who helped the poor 
by collecting alms, and 
was thought to be a Roma. 
The Roma people 
regard her as their saint.
The village 
Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer 
takes its name 
from Mary Jacobe 
and Mary Salome, 
who left Palestine 
and ended up here, and 
then took up as a servant, 
Sara, the patron saint 
of the Roma. 
  
My name is Yanoush Sisco. 
I’m presenting to you 
a few stone engravings 
that I’ve done here in
Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer. 
It’s a schist rock and 
there are also some slates. 
So this is the work 
that I’ve been doing 
during the year. 
These are rocks 
that I pick up at sea 
and to which I give 
pleasant forms that remain 
in the country’s image. 
We are from the east. 
My parents 
come from Poland, 
my mother from Hungary 
and my faith… 
We’ve walked 
on a great path, 
but up until now, 
what brought us to 
Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer 
is this wonderful 
pilgrimage to see
our patron, Sara. 
What exactly 
is this pilgrimage?
This pilgrimage is mostly, 
I think, about 
a special gathering. 
I’ve found people 
who I’ve met in the past, 
30 years ago, 
we found each other 
on the pilgrimage.
Is there a profound 
religious dimension for you 
in this pilgrimage?
Yes, yes, certainly. 
The Church of 
Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer 
brings us closer, 
closer to everyone really, 
and Sara, in her crypt, 
is for us 
something very strong.  
The faith in Sara has 
brought a lot to the Roma. 
Yes, the pilgrimage 
is very beautiful; 
we have faith in the Saint. 
We have to believe in her 
because she performs 
a lot of miracles.
Another legend 
depicts Saint Sara 
to be of noble birth 
living on the banks 
of the Rhone. 
She was one of the first 
to have received the secrets 
of the Revelation. 
It was revealed to her 
that the three saints 
who had been present 
during the crucifixion 
of Lord Jesus 
would arrive to her land. 
The three Marys 
did arrive to shore amidst 
rough seas and weather, 
and it was Saint Sara 
who then helped them.
Interestingly, Saint Sara, 
also known as Sara la Kali, 
is also thought by some 
to be the representation 
of the Indian goddess Kali. 
The procession in 
Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer 
is compared to the Kali 
procession in India 
where the statue 
is immersed into water. 
These traditions may 
have been carried from 
the Roma people’s roots 
in India. 
We are a family 
of Romani and 
we meet every year at
Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer, 
because that's 
where we gather. 
Because there are 
families from home, 
sometimes distant cousins 
that we cannot see, 
we see them here 
exceptionally, at home. 
The Roma people believe 
in community living 
and have strong values of 
family and brotherhood. 
We Roma have 
a lot of respect 
towards the elderly, 
our brothers, our sisters, 
our brothers-in-law, 
the family, the children, 
and let them live 
to the best of this world.
So, we are 
very family-oriented, 
very warm.
Regarding the oldest one 
whom we call grandfather 
because he is the oldest, 
so, for us, he is 
our godfather, really. 
He is our guide.
And the family today is 
still the great melting pot 
of sharing. 
We still have this... in us, 
the instinct of sharing. 
And there is a word 
with us, that says... 
It is this law that 
if one is in need of help, 
the other will help without 
trying to understand. 
There is always sharing. 
When we eat at home, 
there's always more 
in case someone comes 
and they are hungry. 
And we never hesitate 
to give food to someone 
who is hungry even if 
we are without a meal.
I think their value, 
their primary value, 
in my opinion, 
is brotherhood.  
It is this support, 
this ongoing support, 
when one man is in trouble 
the others 
come immediately.
In the family today, 
what are the strong values?
Well, it is respect, 
community living, 
especially with family! 
You move all the time, 
how you live with that?
Well, let us say 
that is our life, 
we are born into it, 
we are cradled; 
it is like the guitar, 
we are born with a guitar. 
So, the thing is that, 
we do not notice, 
but we are enriched 
by all the people 
we encounter 
in every country, 
in every city. 
And that also allows us 
to show our values, 
because we are also 
musicians in life.
And through this music, 
we try to show 
who we really are. 
And what we love, 
and our traditions! 
To share with everyone 
in fact, that's it.
The Roma people 
are widely known 
for their talents 
in singing, dancing, 
and craftsmanship.
Very spiritual, 
they infuse their faith 
in their arts.
In fact, music for the Roma, 
we do not learn it, 
we are born with it, 
it is in our blood. 
Everyone sings, 
everyone does something. 
When you are a Roma 
at heart, 
we have warm blood, 
we are very warm people.
We sing a lot, we sing 
to Jesus a lot, to God. 
We sing a lot of God music.
Prayers?
Especially prayers 
through our music.
In this world, especially, 
we must also remember 
what was the music. 
Today, it's always 
the flamenco here 
in the south of France, 
but long ago, it was 
on the guitar of Django 
that we discovered 
our styles of music. 
And that became 
the Roma jazz 
played by many today, 
including the well-known 
Thomas Dutronc. 
It's a little bit today, 
the world of travel 
with an extraordinary 
cultural mix. 
These trades are also 
found in dance. 
Because today, 
dance will not change. 
It's always flamenco 
for the Roma as such. 
But in some places 
as in the north of France, 
it is also what we call 
the “beacoup,” “ombra,” 
or “rondelets.” 
Dances in small steps 
to mark the intensity 
of meditation to go to 
a communion in faith and 
belief of all the elements 
that surround us. 
When you’re a nomad, 
what is your relationship 
to the Earth as a whole, 
and because 
there are no frontiers, 
how do you see Earth 
as you pass through it?
One thing for sure is 
that we look at the sky 
and the Sun. 
The Sun, this freedom, 
we as nomads, 
it is all about freedom: 
to live in total freedom 
from our hearts, 
we welcome all...  
Of course, 
there might be differences, 
but we still 
welcome others perfectly. 
We make meals, 
evenings with guitar, 
violins, of course, 
it is extraordinary.
We always put the bread 
in a tree 
when we eat in the wild. 
It's always a question 
of belief with the elements. 
There are also some still 
with us... 
to recover from 
poor health, sun bathing 
or dew bathing 
in the morning at dawn. 
For bread 
you put it in a tree. 
We will never 
put it on the ground. 
We will always put it 
on a tree branch 
in the belief that 
the tree gives us strength 
and we breathe health.
Being a Roma is magical 
because we head out 
on an adventure 
to discover the world. 
Because we get back 
on the road, we leave, 
but we do not really know 
where we will end up. 
When we settle down, 
and we just discovered 
the world bit by bit 
like that, we learn about 
other traditions, 
because every time 
we stop somewhere, 
we get to know people 
that we do not really know. 
To sum up, for people 
who don’t know anything 
about Roma people, 
the big picture is music, 
the heart, the big heart. 
That’s what I think: 
the heart.
Yes, absolutely.
Yes, indeed. 
You feel the Roma music, 
you hear the violins, 
the xylophones 
and the pan flute. 
You hear something 
that holds on to the heart, 
that catches the heart.  
It is the song of life, 
the singing of the past, 
the present and the future. 
Most importantly, 
it is a legacy 
and what we call legacy 
is that of receiving. 
It’s really 
all about welcoming, 
truly about welcoming. 
It leaves a good memory, 
we always leave 
good memories and that 
is very important for us.
And I wondered 
if there were children who 
became friends over time 
after the gathering?
Yes, yes.
How is it when they part? 
When they part, when 
you move on to another...
We never say goodbye. 
We say, 
“See you tomorrow,” 
very simply.  
It’s a desire to fully live. 
We must get back 
on the long road 
and we have no frontiers. 
There are no frontiers; 
there are no borders 
for others 
to come to our home. 
May the Roma people 
and your warm-hearted 
traditions be blessed 
and flourish evermore. 
Wishing you all 
a joyous, blessed and 
memorable pilgrimage.
Thank you 
for your kind presence 
on our show today 
about the Roma culture 
and pilgrimage at 
Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer, 
France. 
Coming up next is 
Words of Wisdom, 
after Noteworthy News, 
on Supreme Master 
Television. 
May we all 
cherish one another 
in love and harmony.