G’day mates, and 
welcome to this edition 
of Animal World: 
Our Co-Inhabitants! 
Today we’ll make our way 
to the New England 
Brumby Sanctuary 
in the town of Armidale 
in the state of 
New South Wales, 
Australia 
to speak with members 
of Save the Brumbies, 
an animal welfare charity 
dedicated to protecting 
and ensuring a bright future 
for Australia’s 
wild horses or Brumbies.
Brumbies are widely 
known in Australia as 
the free ranging characters 
in the poems of
the Australian bush poet, 
Banjo Paterson. 
They descend from horses 
brought from England 
to Australia 
beginning in 1788 and 
are thought to be named 
after English soldier 
James Brumby 
who came to Australia 
in the 1790’s. 
When he was transferred 
to the island of Tasmania, 
he is said 
to have left horses behind 
in New South Wales, 
where they eventually 
became wild. 
Another theory is 
that the word “brumby” 
originates from 
the Australian Aboriginal 
word “baroomby,” 
meaning “wild.”
Today Brumbies are 
greatest in number 
in the Northern Territory, 
Queensland and northern 
Western Australia.
Save the Brumbies’ mission 
is “to see humane, 
controlled management 
[of Brumbies] and 
the abolition of shooting 
of wild horses 
in national parks 
and public lands 
Australia wide.”
Jan Carter is the founder 
and president 
of Save the Brumbies. 
She is a former aerobics 
instructor and a retired 
professional musician. 
She has recorded 
an album entitled 
“Run with the Wind,” 
which was done as 
a tribute to the Brumbies 
and has also written 
a children’s book 
about horses called 
“The Sunflower Pony.”
In October 2000 there was 
an aerial slaughter 
of wild Brumbies 
in a local national park 
here, Guy Fawkes River 
National Park. 
And news got out 
to the public 
and local horsemen 
and it was pretty bad. 
And until that stage 
I don’t think Australians 
or the wider world 
had understood 
what is actually going on 
behind the scenes here. 
And so I’m a very 
passionate horse lover 
and I thought 
it was pretty awful. 
I was very upset 
and so were thousands 
of other Australians. 
So I actually took matters 
into my own hands 
at the time, and I started 
the animal welfare charity 
“Save the Brumbies.” 
And our main focus 
in the beginning 
was to lobby government 
and to try 
to instigate changes and 
have more sustainable 
and more humane 
and better plans 
and management. 
And from there 
we evolved into passively 
trapping the horses 
in Guy Fawkes (Park), 
bringing them out, 
as we’re doing now 
and we have managed 
to stop aerial shooting 
in our state of 
New South Wales here. 
We’ve now re-homed 
well over 200 horses 
in caring homes and 
that’s what we do here 
at the New England 
Brumby Sanctuary.
What are some of 
the notable characteristics 
of Brumbies?
They’re tough, 
they’re hard, 
(they symbolize) survival 
of the fittest. 
And (they are) 
very intelligent.
Since I've come 
to work with them and to 
have horses that come in, 
have a fear for people, 
to a couple of days later, 
coming up to you, and then, 
ultimately bond with you, 
and put you as their leader, 
it's an amazing feeling. 
It's sort of gratifying. 
Highly sensitive ones that 
are timid and scared and 
basically petrified of you, 
when you eventually 
turn them around 
they become 
(like) kid’s ponies. 
They trust you that much 
that then they will allow 
anybody to do anything. 
It's an amazing feeling. 
They (have) got 
to survive out in the bush. 
So all of their instincts, 
sight, hearing, smell, 
it’s all basically amplified. 
These horses will tell you 
if there’s a different vehicle 
coming down the road 
before I even hear it. 
They can smell; 
the first thing they’ll do 
is size you up by smell. 
They can smell out 
in the bush 
if you got a fire coming. 
Yes, they’ve got to 
survive on smell. 
So everything is just 
a lot stronger; they’re 
much more sensitive 
than domestics (horses). 
We also asked 
Lisa Burgess, 
a Save the Brumbies 
volunteer, to describe 
how new horses 
come to the Sanctuary 
and get acclimated to 
their new surroundings.
Generally, 
I've got to go out, when 
we get the phone call, 
that they’re ready 
for pick up at the parks. 
I’ve got to go out 
and assess them and 
make sure that there are 
no injuries on them, 
and they’re fit for travel 
and there's not too many 
to go on the one load. 
Then they arrive here; 
I put them in their yards. 
So, they’re here, 
they settle down 
for a couple of days, 
and get used to me. 
I feed them up if need be. 
(I) just wander around them, 
get them used to me. 
Then I’ll do any 
treatments if necessary 
before I let them out. 
I like to let them out 
between three to seven 
days depending on 
how they've settled. 
If they’re starting 
to come up to me 
to get their feed, well then, 
I can safely put them out 
in the paddocks, 
which are the smaller 
holding paddocks here.
When Animal World: 
Our Co-Inhabitants returns 
we’ll learn more about 
the pure, natural qualities 
of Australia’s wild horses, 
or Brumbies. 
Please stay tuned 
to Supreme Master 
Television.
I’ve just turned, 
oh my goodness, 70. 
And I think 
I’m known around here 
as “the ancient one.” 
I don’t know that 
wisdom comes with that, 
but I do keep fit. 
For many years I was 
an aerobics instructor, 
so I’ve always been 
actively very fit. 
It’s just quite simple for me, 
it’s a good philosophy. 
I just don’t like eating 
dead flesh; 
I prefer a herbivore diet. 
I do think it’s 
a healthier way of living, 
my body tells me that. 
Welcome back to 
Animal World: 
Our Co-Inhabitants 
on Supreme Master 
Television 
as we return to 
the New England 
Brumby Sanctuary 
to chat with Jan Carter 
and Lisa Burgess 
of Save the Brumbies, 
an animal welfare group 
that operates 
two horse sanctuaries 
to protect Australia’s 
wild horses or Brumbies 
and also facilitates adoption 
of these splendid beings 
through their 
“Adopt-A-Brumby” 
program.
In the wild, Brumbies 
live in family groups 
called “mobs” 
which can be as large as 
40 to 70 horses. 
However a mob 
is generally much smaller 
and consists of 
a lead male or stallion, 
a lead female or mare 
and five to 15 mares 
and their babies or foals. 
Mobs are hierarchical 
in nature with each horse 
having their own place 
within the group. 
Young males, called colts, 
form their own mobs. 
The male is usually 
at the top? Or the ladies?
No. The ladies! 
Everybody thinks 
the stallion's the boss. 
The stallion's not the boss. 
A stallion's down the bottom 
of the order, unless 
he's a dominant stallion. 
You've got 
in a mob situation, 
you’ve got your lead mare, 
you've got your second 
in command, 
then your third, then
your fourth, and fifth, 
depending on how many 
there are in the situation. 
And then you got 
the stallion at the bottom. 
With a bachelor group 
of colts as well, you’ll get 
that same order of things. 
You got the leader, 
and you got the second, 
third, and fourth. 
It works;
it's just a natural thing. 
The stallion is 
basically there to protect. 
If any danger’s out there, 
he'll protect them, and 
he'll be chasing them away, 
or defending them. 
Mares give birth 
to their foals generally 
in the springtime. 
Brumbies are 
a wide range of colors 
including bay or a 
reddish-brown body color 
with a black mane, tail, 
ear edges, and lower legs. 
They are generally 
13 to 15 hands high or 
130 to 150 centimeters tall. 
Can you tell us 
about these horses, 
just behind you? 
The two we’re looking at 
here at the moment, 
probably came in 
about eight weeks ago. 
They've been gelded 
(neutered). 
Actually they came in 
just before Christmas. 
One, the bay, is a 
four-year-old gelding now 
and came in as a colt. 
He came in 
as a bachelor colt 
on his own. 
He's sort of a bit older 
and this little boy, 
little chestnut one's 
a little yearling. 
He came in with the mob 
of youngsters over there, 
the mare 
and a little stallion.
Dad's over there; 
he's only going to grow 
a maximum 13 hands 
(130 centimeters high).
They've settled now, 
ready to be re-homed; 
(for) somebody 
(to) have a look at them 
and fall in love. 
Actually, Dirado, 
he's more than likely 
been placed. 
Someone's coming up 
this afternoon 
to have a look at him. 
Are they a very 
affectionate species?
Yes, when they bond 
with you. 
They’re highly intelligent. 
And my own Brumby, 
Adam, he’s 
Save the Brumbies’ mascot, 
a very, very sharp horse. 
Brumbies have 
excellent memories 
and Ms. Burgess 
has witnessed this trait 
in these wild horses 
first-hand.
I went and saw a horse, 
I’d only handled him once. 
When he first came in, 
(I) hadn’t seen him 
in three years, 
he knew me straight away. 
I just did 
the first handling and 
it was just straight away, 
basically he remembered. 
  
Why is it so important 
for you to be a part of this? 
To do what you do, 
working with 
these Brumbies 
and saving them, 
and giving them homes.
Well, for me, 
I’m a horse lover. 
I think, for us
it’s all voluntary, and it is,
for both Lisa and myself, 
it’s, I think 
a lot of the time, passion. 
I think my best memory is 
feeding an orphaned foal 
late at night, seeing 
the moon and the stars; 
they are beautiful moments. 
And I think to see a horse 
come from the wild, 
know that we have 
rescued the horse 
from a bullet 
and from an untimely 
and cruel death. 
And to see 
that horse rehabilitated, 
homed with a caring family 
and to have emails and 
photographs sent back. 
People are so proud of them. 
I think that’s its reward. 
We’re doing it 
basically out of love. 
(Out of love, well it is ...) 
For me, they deserve 
every chance they can get. 
They’re a good animal; 
they certainly 
deserve our respect. 
We thank Jan Carter and 
Lisa Burgess for sharing 
their love and passion 
for the wild horses 
of Australia with us 
and for opening our eyes 
to these wonderful beings. 
May God continue to 
bless them in their work. 
Please join us again 
tomorrow on 
Animal World: 
Our Co-Inhabitants 
for part two of our program 
on Save the Brumbies.
For more details 
on Save The Brumbies, 
please visit 
Jan Carter’s 
“Run with the Wind” CD 
is available 
at the same website
Friendly viewers, thank you 
for your company today 
on our show. 
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Enlightening Entertainment, 
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May the love of Heaven 
always shine upon us all.
Beloved friends 
welcome to another edition 
of Animal World: 
Our Co-Inhabitants! 
Today we once again visit 
the 570-hectare
New England 
Brumby Sanctuary 
in the town of Armidale 
in the state of 
New South Wales, 
Australia operated by
Save the Brumbies, 
an animal welfare charity 
dedicated to protecting 
and ensuring a bright future 
for Australia’s 
wild horses or Brumbies.
Save the Brumbies’ mission 
is “to see humane, 
controlled management 
[of Brumbies] and 
the abolition of shooting 
of wild horses 
in national parks 
and public lands 
Australia wide.”
The majority 
of the Brumbies 
taken in by the group 
are from the Guy Fawkes 
River National Park 
in New South Wales where 
wild horses are at risk 
of possibly being culled. 
Save the Brumbies 
has an active program 
to seek out 
wonderful new homes 
for these splendid beings.
Jan Carter is the founder 
and president 
of Save the Brumbies. 
She is a former aerobics 
instructor and a retired 
professional musician. 
She has recorded 
an album entitled 
“Run with the Wind,” 
which was done as 
a tribute to the Brumbies 
and has also written 
a children’s book 
about horses called 
“The Sunflower Pony.”
We are an animal welfare 
charity first and foremost. 
Our first priority is 
always the horse. 
We’re all volunteers. 
We feel that every horse 
deserves a chance at life. 
So horses that need 
a high level of care, 
it could be 
an orphaned foal, 
a horse that’s down 
in condition 
or an injured horse, 
then we care for them. 
Some of the most 
disadvantaged horses 
finish up just 
the sweetest, best horses 
that you could imagine; 
you wouldn’t know them 
a year or two later. 
So we feel that 
every horse deserves 
a chance at life, 
whatever the case. 
None of our horses are 
ever disposed of through 
abattoirs or public sales. 
We are very careful 
in our placements. 
We check out the people 
first and we make sure 
that the horse and 
the person suit each other. 
Brumbies are widely 
known in Australia as 
the free ranging characters 
in the poems of
the Australian bush poet, 
Banjo Paterson. 
They descend from horses 
brought from England 
to Australia 
beginning in 1788 and 
are thought to be named 
after English soldier 
James Brumby 
who came to Australia 
in the 1790’s. 
When he was transferred 
to the island of Tasmania, 
he is said 
to have left horses behind 
in New South Wales, 
where they eventually 
became wild. 
Another theory is 
that the word “brumby” 
originates from 
the Australian Aboriginal 
word “baroomby,” 
meaning “wild.”
Today Brumbies are 
greatest in number 
in the Northern Territory, 
Queensland and northern 
Western Australia.
Lisa Burgess, a manager 
with Save the Brumbies, 
takes tender care 
of the horses that 
come to the sanctuary. 
Let’s now meet one of them 
who unfortunately 
has sustained an injury, 
but is in the capable hands 
of Ms. Burgess.
This little girl is Aribella, 
a three year old filly. 
She had a tendon injury 
running around 
in the paddock; 
she jammed it 
between a couple of rocks. 
She has just been placed, 
but they don’t mind 
whether she’s injured 
or not, but 
I’m still in the process 
of treating her. 
She was never taught 
to lead before
she injured herself. 
That all happened after. 
It was fun. Come on. 
Don’t worry about them. 
It’s alright. 
Come over here.
That a girl. Good girl. 
How long does it 
normally take to recover 
from something like this?
Depending on injury…. 
generally 
a normal tendon injury 
you’re looking at 
a pretty much minor 
eight week recovery. 
This injury, 
six months to a year. 
She’s hurt the suspensories, 
the flexor tendons, 
every one. 
The vet came out 
and checked her. 
So she’s getting there. 
We’ve got a poultice 
on her now, and this is 
just pretty much beaten up 
support bandage 
more than anything else, 
but she runs around 
as if she’s got absolutely 
no injury whatsoever. 
Just goes to show 
how tough she is. 
So this is 
a daily occurrence.
It went from twice a day, 
to now, basically I’ve got 
the TuffRock poultice 
on her at the moment, 
which has been helping it.
And is this just 
to prevent the infection 
from setting in?
No, this one’s actually 
to help swelling. 
The TuffRock,
the poultice you can use it 
for open wounds 
and to prevent infection, 
but this is just 
to counteract the swelling 
and to help 
the healing of the tendon. 
It’s supposed to be good. 
It’s the first time 
I’ve used it, but 
I’ve heard of good results. 
And I must admit though, 
the way it’s 
taking the swelling out, 
I’m quite surprised with it.
Is it just a natural remedy?
Yes it’s similar to clay. 
When Animal World: 
Our Co-Inhabitants returns, 
we’ll learn more 
about the fine work 
of Save the Brumbies. 
Please stay tuned 
to Supreme Master 
Television.
Save the Brumbies, 
we’re a very practical 
organization. 
We handle 
up to 60 horses a year, 
which is a lot 
to handle and manage. 
We’ve placed, very many 
hundreds of horses 
now in good homes. 
So our main focus 
is saving horses 
in a practical sense 
and re-homing them. 
But we also do 
what we can to affiliate 
with governments 
and try to improve 
management plans. 
Welcome back to 
Animal World: 
Our Co-Inhabitants 
on Supreme Master 
Television, 
as we continue our chat 
with Jan Carter 
and Lisa Burgess 
of Save the Brumbies.
Could you tell us 
about the horse 
in the very background, 
how they came here. 
Did they just 
come here recently?
Okay, the ones 
right over the back, 
a little bay fellow 
just walking away, 
he's a yearling. 
They came here five o'clock 
Wednesday afternoon. 
The mother, the pale, 
light color, I don't know 
whether you can see her, 
just over the back, 
she's about 
a four year old mare and 
she's got a little filly foal. 
They came in 
as a family group, in a mob 
sort of trapped together. 
They are very quiet. 
It's yes, very, very 
rewarding to be able to 
just sort of go in there 
amongst them and 
just feed them out and, 
they’re following around 
already. 
We asked Ms. Burgess 
about the diet 
of the Brumbies.  
They are naturally vegans!
They’ll forage on anything. 
But the Lucerne hay here, 
is a supplement feed. 
Lucerne is very rich. 
And these Brumbies 
don’t need much of it 
because they’re used to 
out in the bush 
where it’s tougher
and poorer quality. 
And, they’ll graze 
on herbs, they’ll eat, 
chew a bit of bark 
occasionally if they need 
a bit of roughage. 
They’ll eat stone 
and gravel just to sort of 
to wear down their teeth.
When people find out 
about the work 
that you’re doing and 
when people learn more 
about the brumbies, 
do you find 
that more people 
want to support 
what you’re doing?
Definitely. 
I think we’ve grown a lot. 
And we’ve also 
been instrumental in 
assisting other groups now 
to start up. 
We helped the Victorian 
Brumby Association 
start three years ago. 
A lovely caring lady 
in Queensland who 
adopted two of our horses 
some time ago, 
has now formed 
a re-homing group 
in Queensland, 
and we have people 
in the Hunter Valley. 
We have people down 
in Western Sydney. 
There’s a group 
in Western Australia; 
through our network 
we had a call recently 
about an orphaned foal, 
on an outback property 
in Alice Springs. 
We were able to 
put that person in contact 
with Darwin
who knew somebody 
in the area and that foal 
was able to be rescued. 
We couldn’t do it ourselves 
because we were 
too far away, but through 
our network of contacts, 
were able to 
possibly help that foal. 
Several years ago 
we established 
the Australian 
Brumby Horse Register, 
so the brumbies are now 
a registered breed 
in this country, 
similar to the Mustangs 
in the (United) States. 
We asked Jan Carter 
for her opinion 
as to what the future holds 
for the Brumbies.
Within possibly five years, 
I think, we will see 
some form of protection 
for them in our own state, 
New South Wales. 
Our patron is 
Andrew Stoner, 
who is leader of 
our National Party here, 
and he has signed 
a memorandum 
of understanding 
that if elected to power 
next time around 
he will see the Brumbies 
of the Northern Tablelands 
and the Snowy Mountains 
protected. 
He would like to see 
prison schemes set up 
where the prisoners can 
learn to work with horses 
and bond with them 
and get a lot of 
psychological benefits from 
those sorts of programs. 
He wants to see this 
sustainable management. 
He agrees totally with us 
that the Australian Brumby 
is part of our heritage. 
In sustainable numbers 
they belong in 
non-threatened areas 
of our national parks. 
We hope eventually 
that will come to pass. 
I think it’ll be probably 
a little bit longer 
before this is applied 
to the rest of our country, 
but I do sincerely hope 
the work that we’re doing 
and other affiliated groups 
like us are doing, 
we are raising awareness, 
we are getting 
the message out there. 
To close, we have 
some final thoughts 
about saving these 
magnificent wild horses.
Give them a chance! 
Basically, 
that’s the biggest one, is
give the Brumby a chance; 
let them surprise you. 
I think for me 
animals generally 
have so much 
that we don’t even begin 
to comprehend 
or understand. 
I think animals are 
extremely close, 
obviously, to nature. 
They were put here 
for a purpose, 
they were not put here 
for us to use and discard 
in any way that we want. 
Animals, 
all living creatures, 
deserve our respect. 
And in our case 
with the wild horses, 
definitely they deserve 
our respect and our love 
and they deserve 
the right management. 
And I think that’s why 
we keep going forward. 
For their protective 
and loving care 
of the wild horses, 
Supreme Master Ching Hai 
is honoring 
Save the Brumbies 
with the Shining World 
Compassion Award and 
a donation of US$10,000, 
or approximately 
AUD$11,500, 
to help further their work.
Our sincere thanks go to 
Save the Brumbies 
for all they are doing 
for Australia’s wild horses. 
May the organization 
continue to help 
many more Brumbies 
find loving homes!
For more details 
on Save The Brumbies, 
please visit 
Jan Carter’s 
“Run with the Wind” CD 
is available 
at the same website
Thank you 
marvelous viewers 
for your kind presence 
on Animal World: 
Our Co-Inhabitants. 
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after Noteworthy News. 
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run freely in the fields 
of eternal love!